Why a lithium battery?
Lithium technology has over 1,500 charge cycles for 12v Lithium(usages) and 1,000 for 24v Lithium in 11 years, as a company that only sells the ‘Top Grade’ Lifepo4 grade lithium(for the 12v market) we have never had a customer wear one out yet!(on either 12v or 24v)
Which 12v Lithium should i go for?
In all honesty most customers these days we sell too, buy a 22ah 36 hole lithium not because they play 36 holes but some older well used trolleys ‘can’ take out too much amps’ out of a battery due to there age and drag the battery down a little or a customer may well play a hilly course and feel more comfortable with the extra milage the 22ah gives,and the most important reason is …we sell 22ah now as cheap as a 16ah 18 hole!!..and Just arrived the ‘battery meter’ range. new to market…And new for 2018 we have a 12v 22ah 36 hole lithium with ‘usb’ port.
Can i leave my Lithium Battery off charge?
Any Lithium battery can be left on or off charge,it doesnt really matter.The manufactuers say for the ‘ozone’ layer re charge then take off charge! But either is fine. A Lithium can be left off charge once re charged for up to 3 months.We always send a ‘do’s and don’t’ letter with every receipt that explains all this…Just dont drop a Lithium battery!..and also by using a 22ah for only 18 holes WILL NOT affect the battery at all. like it does with cyclic or gel batteries.(and that applies to 24v lithium batteries as well)
Can a Lithium battery be used on its side?
Yes a Lithium battery is not affected in any way on performance on its side,flat or upright.
What is the difference between LifePo4 grade lithium and the cheaper grade ‘Lithium ion’.?
In reality it really doesnt make that much difference these days as it did years ago,LifePo4 has always been the best grade but dearer in general to buy. but now it is much closer and not much difference,as the after sales back up is the most important aspect including being able to speak to someone on phone for immediate questions,(ebay that doesnt happen!) Lithium is the future and the present,and 99% of all our customers now not only buy Lithium replacements but always buy Trolleys with a lithium upgrade. Lighter,smaller,and can be interchangeable.We like to suggest always buy from a reputable retailer…
What is a Limited 5 year warranty?
Very simple.IF a lithium battery is faulty in the 4th year a replacement will be given at a % of the costs and 5th year same.It is standard stuff really all suppliers do it but in our humble opinion the warranty is in the most part with the lithium batteries irrelevant as they last 10 years or more anyway.We have only ever had to replace 2 lithium battery in 10 years!….So as we are a big Lithium distributor for both 12v/24v and now 36v batteries we only buy from the best factory Lithium specialist,but we are always looking at ways to improve and bring new product to market.and now we as a company put FULL 3 year warranty on our 24v lithium and FULL 5 Year warranty on 12v.
My Little Miracle Lithium is only 2 year old and only doing 16 holes.
Well firstly it may be your trolley perhaps, if its a 16ah 18 hole model as the well used older trolleys can take out more ‘amps’ and not get round on a hilly course,but the trouble you have now currently is you have lost your warranty probably,as ‘Pure Drive’ who used to own the company went bust recently and the new company(pure drive energy ltd) may not transfer the warranty over.With bankrupt companies this can happen sadly.
My Lithium is only doing 16 Holes?
Ok then it isnt likely to be a lithium battery as they are protected by a ‘BMS’ Management chip’ inside the battery so put a different lithium charger on and re charge and see if that makes any difference…if it does…faulty charger. if not….if your trolley is 7-10 years old get your trolley serviced as it ‘may’ be taking out ‘too many amps’ due to years of use and ‘dragging the battery down’…99% of the time it isn’t going to be a lithium battery fault(well unless you have a powakaddy branded one! they are crap)…..or you may have a old Motocaddy ‘M’series; trolley and they have had ‘motor’ issues which have been taking out way too much ‘juice’ from the batteries……(if so get them to replace your motor under warranty.)..but we havent told you that!!
What trolley should I buy?
Well we in the main will only sell UK Made manufactured trolleys,like Golfstream and Greenhill,Go Kart with 18 year plus of reliability,as opposed to the Chinese distributor brands like Motocaddy/Powakaddy/Powabug/Powerhouse to name a few which just buy a chassis pre boxed and ship out.(PK Now import there chinese parts and assemble in uk) While a manufactured Chassis will have their chassis made in preston,and the electrics in Kent,and worth remembering Manufactuers have to by law keep available parts for every model for 10 years…distributors don’t.In our opinion having sold all the trolleys ever made over the last 25 years, the Golfstream ‘DUO SPORT’ is without doubt the best most reliable solid trolley on the market today by far,And the best ‘small’ trolley is the QOD outstanding unique machine that customers ‘rave about’…and now check out the new 2018 version, with removable handle and wider tyres,
Why should i go for a DV8 Remote?
Firstly it is UK Made with digital ‘important’ functions. Unlike the Stewart Golf ‘ machines which are way too expensive and same quality yes but look’s like a ‘space ship’ in our opinion and they don’t have air tyres as standard and any replacement’s are very expensive..And the Motocaddy is chinese. and in History China and remotes Just don’t go well together with reliability!
What’s the best Single seat golf buggy?
Well in our opinion Patterson Products are 100% hand built in UK and have 30 years of reputation and they also most importantly ‘hold their re sale value’. While Chinese distributors like Powerhouse/fairway Rider/Turbo kaddy/i4 Just get them in from china in a box and then re sell them on. Reliability is the big difference in our 19 years of buggy selling.
Which Buggy Specification would i need?
Quite simple really,if a customer buys a uk made buggy with the PM70 Motors(Patterson Eventer 4/Trio) that is a standard spec and ideal for flat to medium courses and customers under 14st.If a customer is over 14st and plays a hilly course the highpowered PM90 motor buggy(Patterson Highlander) should be the choice because if wrong one chosen a customer ‘could’ in time ‘blow’ the motors.As the bigger motored buggies have bigger gearboxes and different settings.
Vat exempt on golf buggies?
No company in uk is allowed to sell any golf buggy related product ‘vat free’ the only exemption is if any golf buggy is used for ‘own personal use’ (this means going to the shops or walking the dog and the buggy needs certain modifications even then like lights and swivel seat).Even if any customer is registered disabled with a blue badge, and a doctors note is even more ‘illegal’ its fraud! as golf is NOT classed as ‘personal use’. if it was legal all suppliers will be able to do vat free.Any supplier saying otherwise is lying and putting the customer in a very difficult situation later when any supplier gets visited by the HMRC.customers ‘can’ be fined as well as the supplier will be closed down.! see link to HMRC website that proves this….’there are NO exceptions and includes 24v batteries,and may we say any company doing this,has always been visited by HMRC.VAT Exemption is NOT applicable on Golf related items. Despite some retailers offering VAT exemption the current guidelines from the HMRC clearly point out that this is not the case. Irrespective of disability it would be illegal for us to do so.
Why are Patterson Buggies better than the rest?
Very simple really.100% UK made they hold there value so easy to re sell(we would buy back straight away),and ultra reliable,(we have only had 1 warranty claim in 18 years) and compared to the chinese (Powerhouse/Turbo caddy/Fairway rider) which are ultra unreliable proven to be(look on ebay and see how many for sale!) they are almost impossible to re sell. The likes of Grasshopper and electrokart in our opinion are old fashioned in the case of Electokart and grasshopper is almost impossible to dismantle and lift the back end to dismantle as it is way too heavy unlike a patterson buggy which are way more functional and lighter.
Why should i buy second hand buggy?
Well we as a company sell so many for so many years we only source and service and put a warranty on all our second hand golf buggies like Grasshopper &Patterson. Reason they last and hold there re sell on value later and 99% of all customers upgrade to a single 24v lithium battery.and we are not greedy like some suppliers on our prices. there in general is a £1k gap between a new and a second hand buggy.Everything is on our website what is available at the time.we are passionate and care about what we do.
Do you sell Motors and Gearboxes individually for Patterson Buggies?
Yes we do.All we need is the full serial number and motor spec ie;PM70/90? or 180/300 watt?this gives us the size.and we can quote a price.(all different and delivery would be about 6 weeks at present) but that we hope to be quicker.Please just email us to discuss.
What PSI should my tyres be on my Patterson golf buggy be?
22psi on the front and 23psi on the rear.
Why Lithium for a Buggy?
24v Lithium single battery for a golf buggy all makes and models is the present and the future,9 out of every 10 are sold with this upgrade,as like 12v trolley Lithium they last almost for ever,lighter and can be left off charge for 3 months,and are much easier to transport,particulaly if a buggy is being transported.We think with out a doubt worth the extra.
Which 24V Buggy Lithium should i go for?
If a customer has the bigger highpowered motors on a electokart/Patterson or a chinese powerhouse/hillman design then a 47ah will give extra milage(and its a smaller size to fit the cradles)and as the bigger motors take more ‘juice’ out of any battery the 47ah probably be prudent especially if its a hilly type course regulaly used. The 32ah 18 hole will also suit any buggy and fit any cradle. If a customer has a Pennine or a Patterson second hand buggy these have ‘battery covers’ which restrict the height of a battery so the original cradle will need to be lowered and re welded for a 48ah, but not on a new pattersons as they are done when they are built.The 32ah fits any cradle without any restrictions.And now we sell a 47ah which is new to market that has the bigger 48ah milage but the smaller caseing size so no buggy alterations are required…perfect!!…and the 24v 47ah is our biggest selling 24v battery…and we sell it to the national grid!
How long for delivery?
Generally if ordered before 2pm Next working day for most Lithium Batteries,and Trolleys. Golf buggies as they are very rarely pre made take 3 days.Every now and then a electric trolley as they are generally ‘hand built’ to order can take 2 days.
Do You ship to USA?
Yes we do. price settings are on our shopping cart/checkout system but it can vary dependent on what is ordered. Trolleys are in the most part £200 can be up to £210/£220 and a lithium battery would be £95. Just email us your order and we can confirm and quote and send pay pal order perhaps.
16ah or 22ah Lithium Battery?
Well 80% of sales these days are the 36 hole 22ah battery in the main because customers may play a hilly course or want to do 36 holes,but the 16ah or even the 18ah (middle option) will do any course in reality. Lithiums ALWAYS have more juice in there ‘cells’ than most customers think.What we would suggest customers consider though,if a customers trolley is well used and old say 8-10 years old be aware that a 16ah which will do 18 holes on a hilly course the older trolley could ‘take out more juice’ from any battery as it will more than likely take out more ‘amps’ due to age. so the bigger 18ah or 22ah would be prudent. this is something that is happening more and more.
Does Lithium fit any trolley?
Yes. the only ‘extra’ a customer might need is with a Powakaddy freeway 3,5,7,model needs a unique adapter that we sell.We also sell the adaptor for a stowamatic trolley as well.
If i bought a trolley what Upgrade should i go for?
Well 95% of the time we sell Brolley holders that on all uk made machines ‘screw in’ to the handle so no ‘wobbly’ ones like in past that go round chassis,also worth mentioning that on hilly courses we would advise a ‘Brake’ upgrade,which are mainly in the industry only available on uk made trolleys as a ‘limited slip differential’ performance. Certainly puts the price of purchase up a little but if used regulaly on a hilly course with out doubt worth it,stops on hills and wont run away from customer.
Can my old Powakaddy battery be used on a golfstream trolley?
Yes as those batteries have a ‘t-bar’ connector on battery,all that is needed is unscrewing the t-bar off and purchase a red/black Torberry lead that will screw on to said battery.
Can i dismantle a Golf buggy into my car?
certainly all models of Patterson buggies will dismantle easily into the bag of most cars. Sometimes customers buy ramps from us and put back seats down in hatchbacks or 4×4 or estate cars that and ramp with seat off easily and reverse out. Certain cars with a ‘boot’ is or can be a little more tricky but once we know what vehicle the customer has we can advise on that scenario.
What is the best trolley?
The best we have ever sold ever in 20 years going right back to the original hill billy is quite simply the Golfstream Revolution, as it has 8 years of proven reliability and thicker uk made tubing and one Piece quick fold. The best selling trolley is the Golftream DUO SPORT,and a very underated trolley is the Greenhill GTS Digital.in recent times though we have sold enormous amount of the relatively new ‘tiny folding’ QOD Digital Lithium.
All on website are genuine and have been moved over from our old website recently,as we have just had this website launched.
What happens if i am not in for delivery?
Shouldnt happen as we will always endeavor to email all customers the courier details and ‘hour window’ of delivery on that day,and customers can on that information we send change or make arrangements to leave with a neighbour/dpd drop off shop or leave in garage etc.a system that works well.
Why doesnt my Red/Black Torberry Fit?
Well all a customer needs to do is slide the plastic cover down from the red/black torberry ends,then either slide the red/black ends apart and then swap them over and slide back together again.They actually can fit 4 ways but as long as red to red, black to black.If they dont slide apart just break them apart.They will still side back together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnN4rQS2muE
I have a fairly small boot what trolley would be suitable?
The best and smallest on market is the QOD Digital Compact,which is a fantastic ‘tiny’ machine that folds into virtually nothing!,and the Go Kart models.However also look at the Golfstream DUO SPORT Suspension, this trolley has a folding front wheel and i smaller when folded than most ‘triangle’ folded chassis.
QOD who are they?
Well the owner is from australia,with regd office in london as well as a distribution depot also in London,after sales in Cornwall and Glasgow and accountants in Preston.They make in our opinion a outstanding very small folding machine that fits ‘any’ car boots. Digital functions and we have found to have outstanding reliability.Functional and easy to unfold and fold into the smallest boots,We also feel that with the tiny size and build quality it surpasses all the similar small folding machines on the market today,and we are now in 2017 QOD’S sole distributor/retailer in uk and europe….so all sales go through us!! Great well built trolley and we aim to produce the best service also on the market with this trolley.
Why a QOD and not a Motocaddy M3 Pro or Powakaddy C2?
Firstly the QOD is hand built in Australia.While MC and PK are chinese,and we have certainly done the odd part exchanges with 6 month old MC M3 Pro’s and customers feel they made the right choice to a QOD as it is firstly smaller and neater and fits a car boot better,as well lighter than those machines,but the MC/PK trolleys do catch the fingers in the folding joints where as the QOD doesnt.That is our feed back….
My 2 year old Lithium is not getting round 18 holes what do i do now?
Firstly if it is possible make sure it has been on charge properly with charging point all the way in,and the mains are on.Secondly If you have a friend or neighbour that has same type of lithium charger, charge your battery with that and use and see if same symptoms occur.Thirdly if it is a ‘intermitant’ fault make sure the t-bar connection on battery is all as it should be and no loose connection anywhere.Fourthly if your charger once plugged into re charge is on constant green light then thats a charger fault as lithium batteries are more or less ‘bullet proof’ in 10 years of us selling ‘Lifepo4’ grade lithium they have a ‘Battery management chip’ inside battery to protect them. and if all that fails to sort the issue ring us!!
I have a very small car Boot what trolley should i go for?
Either the QOD or the Go Kart. bother are very small folding and easy to use. The Go Kart is uk made as well as most of the trolley’s we sell on our website,but the Motocaddy ‘M’ Series small folding version are chinese and we feel customers get there fingers trapped at times in the catches. Go Kart have a reknown after sales also,and the QOD is our best selling ‘small folding’ machine.
I dont see Motocaddy or Powkaddy on your site Why?
Very simple..in a word unreliable.In our years of being in this market we have sold both Motocaddy and Powakaddy but as they are chinese components the long lasting reliability aspect is just never there. We call them ‘Trendy’ 5 year rotation trolleys,as customers and the trade get fed up of getting them repaired,which doesnt happen with uk made machines which last a ‘lifetime’.To be fair all chinese machines are the same,and just because the union jack logo is on there boxes doesnt mean they are uk made components!.the average returns rate for motocaddy and Powakaddy is 14%. Uk made machines like Golfstream or Greenhill is less than 1%.Proven over years.